X-men Origins Wolverine

Funny. I enjoyed it. And not because of the mucho Jackman nudeness. Frankly he leaves me feeling slightly queasy.

However, "if I had a vagina or been gay I would have enjoyed this" is offensive on so many levels it's making my head spin.

Yes, wolves are pack animals, as irrelevant as that piece of trivia is.

Wolverines on the other hand aren't, in fact far from it.

... films don't have to be realistic to be good?

I mean, I don't like x-men, but that seems to be the main thing you've got against it, which isn't rly enough to loathe it surely?

They ironed Professor X? Sounds unnecessarily sadistic.

I think that in marvelland, mutant powers are indeed caused by mutations on a genetic level into something new and completely different (completely, otherwise we are all mutants in respect to previous generations), as of such they would be piss easy to find once you've deconstructed someone's DNA, which exists after their death. The only hard part would be to deconstruct their DNA, which would require some sort of already-done-before-technique which is clearly fantasy, I mean who uses techniques that have already been done before.

At the end of the day, it's called science-fiction for a reason.

I'd still much rather watch this on my birthday than Star Trek (and that has a Leeds Uni School of English alumni playing Kirk!)

Oh, and even though I as it was so crudely put "have a vagina", I can think of several millions of men on this planet who I am far more attracted to than Hugh Jackman. I don't mean to sound angry because I'm not, I'm just faintly amused that this movie has been recommended to women and gay men, when neither the woman nor the gay man on this thread are actually than keen on the guy!

I understand that the whole X-men thing isn't everyone's cup of tea, but I still can't wait to see this film!

Agreed.

Contentious

Agreed, the most disappointing part of the film for me, he was nowhere near suave enough. Though this is, in a sense, 'past' gambit, it is conceivable that he develops the suaveness at a later date.

Was it me or did he look really weird?

They're not wolves, they are human If you're referring to their animalistic sides those would be Sabertooth (tiger presumably) and Wolverine, neither of which are pack animals AFAIK

Not really the end, there is a lot more plot than that.

Ok, this is where your critique really breaks down. It has always been inferred that the mutant powers are a result of genetic mutations (the word MUTANT being the big clue there). Now everything they do to combine the powers pretty much goes along with what would happen if you were trying to genetically alter an already living person, samples of required DNA are collected, sciency stuff happens (which isn't shown, but fuck it, it's a film), material is injected into patient deisgned to bond new DNA to existing DNA in cells. Ok, it's a bit wishy washy and the technology is far beyond what we have now BUT IT'S A FUCKING FILM BASED ON A COMIC BOOK.

As for the powers being in perfect balance, ok it was a little badly worded, but the insinuation was that putting that many powers into one person caused problems in as much as they tended to cause to much harm to the subject itself, Logan's healing power was the solution to this. Also, it could have conceivably taken decades, as you state Logan is Weapon 10. This generally implies there have been 9 weapons before him. Now the experiment on Logan was to test that his healing ability would allow an adamantium skeleton to be grafted on to him, which seemed to be very desirable for the evil research people. There is nothing however to say that Weapons 1 to 9 weren't experiments in combining powers, run over decades.

Again...FILM BASED ON COMIC BOOK

Nope, at least 11 tries, assuming that there wasn't other experimentation between each of the 'Weapon' programs.

Hmmm, well, what leaves a bitter taste more is people reviewing a film badly seemingly just because they wanted to, i.e., by picking holes in it that aren't there. Ok, it was by no means a classic movie, and if you'd picked up on something like the truely shoddy CGI in many places I may have been a bit more sympathetic. However, in my view you got what you paid for, a reasonably entertaining sci-fi actionfest, yes including some outlandish sicence and physics, but no more so than any other Marvel creation including comic books et al. Get off your high horse.

And you missed out the most important error.

Ok just to add my own little review. This film is sadly dissapointing, the plot isn't very good and the characters are underdeveloped. The film feels like Wolverine and Sabretooth plus a load of cameos from other Mutants rather than characters that you can empathise with. Some characters i just flat out didn't give a fuck about such as Wolverines girlfriend and her sister, the teleporting guy (Wraith i think he's called) and i didn't really care about the guy who got turned into Deadpool.

Also the plot also isn't so much a series of twists as a series of unguessable actions followed by the answer straight away before moving onto the next action. Also at one point after figuring out the series of events (which the audience realises at the same time) Wolvering flat out fucking tells the audience whats happened in the film so far.

Good acting, poor plot, poor script and no depth to any of the characters other than Wolverine and Sabretooth.

I would loved to have seen more stuff about the Mutant team as the only support character i really wanted to see more of was Agent Zero. Gambit gets very little air time to say how much they big him up in the trailers and it also raises the question, if he's so fucking good why wasn't he in X-Men?

As a prequel it opens up too many loose ends to really justify itself. However as a sequel and a Deadpool spinoff have already both been confirmed i'm guessing some of it was planned to be tied up in that.

wade wilson 5 minutes in, only reason to watch this film, I love REAL deadpool

that is all

Ok... in bullet points:
-If you like getting a numb arse watching an over long and relatively torturous movie. you will love this
The movie is 107 minutes long. That's less than two hours, for Pete's sake.

-If you like gambit as a character, you will hate this (he has no charm and looks like a very fluffy Brandon Lee)
He didn't really have enough screen-time for charm, though personally I thought he was hot.

-If you like Professor Xavier you will hate this (they ironed him)
Of course they 'ironed' him, it's a prequel, they were trying to make him look younger than he was in the other movies

-(arent wolves pack animals? guess not....)
OK, it's already been stated that Wolverines are different, but to suggest that fighting with his brother made Logan less of a pack animal goes directly against a basic knowledge of how males work within packs. The strongest one is generally the alpha male, the one allowed to breed. As such, in-fighting is not uncommon in wolves.

-NOW im no geneticist
but these folks are born with the powers
If im born with a skill (i fancy my drawing skills as something i have always had and not necessarily leant)
If you kill me and stick me with a needle you cannot
repeat
CANNOT remove my skills at art
So how the holy fuck can you remove a genetic power with a syringe?

Much though you would like to think you could draw when you were born Daryl, you couldn't. It's motor memory that has been built up since you were small. And they could remove your ability to draw by sticking a needle in you, they'd just need to stick it in the right part of your brain and damage the cells. Plus killing you would probably stop you drawing too.

Aside from that, genetic mutations could be transferred, it's not even as out there as most of you think. Baring in mind we already have a blue-print of human DNA and an understanding of how it works. To put these powers into someone else would work a lot like a virus, which uses its host's DNA and implants itself as part of the coding so that the virus's DNA is replicated by the host.

DNA has two strands which, when replicating, undo from each other, attract their pairs and reform and two new strands and happens reasonably frequently. The only unbelievable part is that it would have probably taken a good few years to settle in as part of the system, as it takes time to replicate. Or at least that's what I remember from A-levels. You'd do better to check with someone doing a biology related degree to be sure.

Otherwise, I'd agree that the film did leave a lot of plot holes. I'd have liked it to explain a little more about the history leading up to the scene where Wolverine first gets his claws, for one. Likewise, I'd agree that they don't build most of the characters up enough to make them likeable. However, all in all I don't think it was bad. It just didn't stand up to the other X-men films very well.

Okay, having now seen this film, I can say that despite what everyone else seems to think, I actually quite liked it.

Oh, and to further discredit the whole "wolves in packs" theory, you do all realise that Sabretooth is supposed to have cat-like powers, right? Hence the name "Sabretooth"? Wolves have nothing to do with his relationship with Wolverine (although I'm pretty sure they're not actually brothers in the comics).

Also, anyone who has seen the 3rd X-men film will know that Xavier is supposed to look 20 years younger; that's why he looks a bit different.

Generally, I thought that this was a good film

Of course not, nothing has anything to do with wolves.
Wolverines have nothing to do with wolves(well, they share similar habitats and hunting grounds), in fact in Swedish, their names mean something like fell-cat.
Sabretooth tigers have nothing to do with wolves, being ancient big cats.

Now can people stop talking about wolves?

I quite enjoyed this film. It's not big and it's not clever, but is still pretty fun while it lasts.

And I actually quite liked the way Gambit was done; it was interesting to have an insight into a younger version of him than that in the comics and tv show.

I also think the Deadpool film should be good; based on his brief performance in this and the film Waiting, Ryan Reynolds should do a pretty good job of it. I just hope he has the proper costume for it

FOr Ryn Reynolds, the proper costume should be.....Nothing. At. All.

Siiiiigh

Personally not a fan of Ryan Reynolds in films. His work in sitcoms has left him typecast as a humorous character, which spoiled the last Blade film that came out (along with the really bad advertising of the iPod, which didn't fit the storyline at all.) It was good to see him playing a darker character, but I thought there was still a hint of trying to make him slapstick early on, even in this film.

Oh it wan't just iPod, it was mac in general. When their first hideout blew up, all the PC's exploded...their new lair had shiney new Macs

IT was the Hannibal King character that first got me...um... 'interested' in RR...

I actually think that's why he was cast for the part; Wade/Deadpool is supposed to be a darkly comic character; hence his nickname "the merc with a mouth".

RR was cast as deadpool mainly for the fact that a) he wanted to play him ('cause he's a massive fan) and b) in the comics Deadpool says I loook like a cross between a Shar Pei and Ryan Reynolds. Deadpool is my 2nd favourite comic character and RR plays wade brilliantly. In the comic he breaks the 4th wall loads, talks about continuity with the comics he's previously been in and has conversations with 'the little yellow boxs'.

edit:

he's known as the 'merc with the mouth' 'cause the tests he went through when part of the weapon x program (where he also got the name deadpool for surviving the dead 'pool' where people betted on when he'd die) drove him insane and he uses his mouth as part of his 'offence'

history lesson over

Who's #1?

daredevil

I couldn't stand the film of that, what was your opinion of it?

not much, the directors cut is better tho, my love of comics ain't based on films tho, 'cause if they where I wouldn't ever read one that fox owns the film rights for

Hmm...I never really got Daredevil. I've tried, but I dunno...he's one of those big league characters that just sort of leaves me cold. Batman, Superman, Daredevil and a few others just...don't work for me. Although somewhat bizarrely, I did enjoy the of Daredevil, the first two of the Christopher Reeve Superman and the Tim Burton Batman movies. But the comics?

Hmmmm . . .